[MUSIC] Vanessa. Hearing the scathing criticism of the research finds her eyes filled with tears. She tries to remain calm, but the nervous anticipation, her poor sleep, and pent up emotions and threatens her cannot be contained. We are doing nothing wrong here, yet I fear for my life. I don't want to die. This is not what I expected from a life of science. I can't take it. I'm not that strong. She bows her head and covers her face with her hands. She can't stop her silence, sobbing. Those in the meeting are surprised at her lack of stoicism and control. They have little understanding of what she's been through. Monsenior Grand Shites shakes his head confirming his opinion of her and the research. Ryan bends down with his lips close to her ear and whispers to her quietly. So that only she can hear. Vanessa you're crying in front of the Pope. This is not the time for that. Can't you control your emotions? She looks back at him and silently shakes her bowed head. It's been too much for her. >> So your next approach to chronic pain is going to deal with emotions and it looks like from these slides that you've been focusing a little bit on fear as an emotion. Can you tell me more? >> Well, emotion is a major contributing factor to chronic pain, and not only does chronic pain cause emotional- >> Mm-hm. >> Problems, like depression, anxiety anger but it also can contribute to it. It's integrally involved with chronic pain. >> Okay. >> And with regard to this particular introduction. >> Mm-hm. >> The big fear is really one of the biggest emotions with regard to chronic pain and its fear of being re-injured that people start. >> Oh. Pulling back, they don't do the things. >> Protective. >> Protective, exactly. And of course they also then brace, increase their muscle tension, clench their teeth, and that contributes to more pain. So with regard to the book, >> Yeah. We left them in a fearful situation. >> Right. They escape. >> Oh good. >> Bressigala. >> Mm-hm. >> After the Medieval festival because they know they need to get out of town. The messenger is on the prowl. He's trying to find both Ryan and Vanessa. >> Okay. >> And who knows what he's going to do when he finds them? >> Yeah. >> So they leave town and do not tell anybody, they go down to Rome. >> Okay. >> And at the same time her friend, close friend down in Rome, arranges for a meeting with the Pope and all of their, all of the cardinals that are involved in this because the, the Pope and the Catholic church is the ones that hold the last scroll. >> I see. >> And they can stop the research themselves or they can continue the research. >> Oh okay. And they want to meet with the Pope to get his blessing to continue the research. >> Okay, interesting. >> So they're in a situation where, she's trying to explain what the importance of the research to the Pope. And there's a lot of Cardinals that say we have to stop this right now, people are getting killed over this issue. >> Okay. So nerve-wracking. Uh-huh. >> Yes. >> Alight. And what's the discussion question. >> Well, the discussion session is really about how do you feel emotion plays within your life. >> Mm-hm. >> Does it contribute to any pains, painful situations or ill health? >> Mm-hm. >> What are the different emotions that you have and how does it play a role, like depression, anxiety fear, and particularly anger. >> Hm. >> Anger is something that. As I showed in some of the earlier introductions. >> Mm-hm. >> Anger can really stem from, from conflict in social situations. >> And connects to pain. >> Yes. And, and how do you control emotions, or do you need to control emotions. >> Mm-hm. >> So there's a lot of questions that come up about emotions and pain. >> Okay. And that's what you'll address in the module as well? >> That's correct. Dr. Weiss Dr. Mark Weisberg does a very good job inside of discussing that whole role of emotions. Both positive and negative and how it plays in chronic pain. >> Okay.