So far we've talked a lot about relationships, and kind of with this lens that everyone has a certain degree of freedom in order to make their decisions. But with that said, not everyone has the same life chances or opportunities, depending on where they're located, or their current situation. So I thought that would be an important point for us to touch on. >> Yeah, this is actually one of my pet topics, right. I've been advocating for people to pay more attention to this concept of erotic justice. Well, in the social sciences, and social services, and human services, and education, people have been talking about this concept of social justice and law. And then when people talk about social justice they usually refer to income level, housing, education, health care and all that. And many of us would refer to Max Weber's idea of life chances, which is your opportunity in life to access resources that you need and to realize your goals in life. And I think the concept can actually be applied to the erotic domain of life, you know. You can be talking about love and sex, and the simple truth is not everyone has the same equal opportunity to get into a gratifying relationship. Not everyone has the same opportunity to derive sexual satisfaction. Some people by virtue of their power status, income level would have advantage over others. In a global context, and if we bring in the racial dimension, I would say that is probably generally true, not universally true, but generally true. Let's say for example white people, by virtual of being white, would have certain advantage when they're negotiating relationship when we're looking at interracial intimacy, or interracial love relationship. I can say with a certain level of confidence that that being white has some advantage but of course it's not uniform. If you are factoring your income level, then if you're white but you're poor and you live in the rural context. Then you may not have as much advantage as someone who's living in the city who is high income. So you would take in all this intersecting dimensions and I would say some people are sort of more privileged and some people are more disadvantaged. >> Do you think it helps to be cognizant of one's, where they kind of stand in this spectrum of intersections. So if I'm a female and I'm a minority in terms of race or things like that, does it help to be recognizing that in order to navigate sexual relationships? >> Yeah, I think awareness is definitely useful if you understand where you are and your chances. That is a good starting point. But I think from a SSLD perspective, you always want to work towards empowering whoever we're working with. It can be done individually, it can also be done collectively. So I think helping people to achieve a higher level of self-efficacy, developing strategies and skills to help us increase our chance of getting what we need in life, is a core concept in SSLD. And then, in the world of intimate relationships, we understand, for instance, that in western cultures they're for example pretty rigid conventions regarding what is physically attractive. Say for example, if you're sort of a bigger, heavier woman, you're generally considered less attractive by most people. And in order to deal with that reality, we have to help people to appreciate the dynamics of interpersonal attraction a little bit more. To help people understand that yes, physical appearance does play a role, we're not denying that. But then interpersonal attraction that is not 100% dependent just on physical attraction alone. And if you have learned how to interact with people in a manner that would be more effective in addressing the other person's N3C to get to know the other person better. You understand what the other person's needs are, characteristics, preferences and capacity. And you learn more effective communication skills and relationship skills. It will up your life chances of developing or negotiating a gratifying relationship. Although we also understand the limitation of this, it doesn't solve every problem, it doesn't help everyone, but I think it helps to some extent. Yeah.