Kind of classical iron, bronze age stuff.
But we could also talk about the sail, right?
We could talk about the compass, we could talk about rudders.
We could talk about you know paper making.
I mean that's one of the ones I love the most, right?
Paper making of course, and the printing press, kind of seeing that process.
They love to see that.
Muslims and the Chinese meet at the Battle of Talas River and
they capture these Chinese paper makers and slowly and
that leads to paper making and during the madrassas and the great schools.
And that information then gets passed on later to Europe,
which it only would happen when there's paper, right?
And than they can think about what that means about their life
in terms of their Instant access to information.
>> Right.
And the fact that so much did take place in China.
>> Yes. >> As you've said, paper.
>> Yes. >> The compass.
>> Yes. >> We wouldn't have had
the great explorations of the early Ming Dynasty.
>> Absolutely.
>> All the way around to Africa.
>> Absolutely. >> Without the compass.
>> Absolutely.
>> So we see that different civilizations have-
>> Well, and that those make profound
effects.
So for them to consider, what does it mean that our science is
now understanding about things like DNA or plate tectonics?
They're changing our understanding of where we are in the world and
all the ways in which that might begin to change us.
I think this is part of this new kind of global perspective
that is slowly emerging of what, the universe stories being a big part of that.
It's part of this new kind of image that's coming of a kind of planetary
consciousness.
>> Yes, and you could even say, of course, the universe story and
epic of evolution has come from the side of the scientists and so on.
And the big history has come from the side of historians and humanities.
And all of sudden we're getting this great meeting.
>> Well that's the exactly right and that's what so exciting.
>> Yeah, it brings us even to a sense doesn't that we're part
of a planetary civilization that's emerging.
>> I think it is emerging.
And I think these are kind of intellectual symptoms of it.
The kind of on their own,
these disciplines are beginning to have this more global context.
>> Yes, and we can certainly say it's multicultural, there's multiforms,
multireligious, but some kind of planetary civilization.
And all it does awaken, as you've said I think,
the seeds of hope, the seeds of gratitude.
>> Of gratitude, and hope.
>> And that, I think, is a fundamental sense of renewable energy,
it's our human energy.